Tuesday, December 2, 2014

Getting straight to the truth of "Chemtrails"

My challenge to people concerned about "Chemtrails"

Are you convinced that chemtrails are more than just water?
You could be right! who really knows for sure?
Get out there and prove it!

You want to prove or discover what is up there with solid scientific evidence that cannot be denied and is easily repeatable?

Then use one of these;

Also called an Infrared spectrometer

Its a small box ranging in size from that of a matchbox to about the size of a briefcase.
You plug a fibre optic lead from a small lens, a camera, or a telescope into it, then connect
IR Spectrometer on Mt Erebus Antartica

another end to a computer/tablet with a USB connector.

There are different models with different levels of accuracy and different wavelength sensitivities (some suit telescopes, some suit microscopes).

It can identify any chemical compound based on the way IR light either absorbs, bounces off or refracts through it.

They are available "off the shelf" they can be purchased, rented, or even home made.

Through Fourier transformation (a type of maths equation) and other methods it can single out individual compounds out of many.

You do NOT have to understand these processes to use the device.

The system is known as INFRARED SPECTROSCOPY.

Use one of these :

Here are  some possible devices to use
Some of these products are expensive, so choose wisely.
I'm still getting details of the exact requirements, at the moment this is just information to get you going, rather than specific instructions of what to do, although I am working on a cheap/simple solution based on the Public.lab.org system.

Public Lab Spectrometer
Price: $free if you have a smartphone, an old digital camera and some bits.

Publiclab.org is a site devoted to a fully home built simple open source design.
This is very cheap but requires a bit of skill to build. It is ideal for the home enthusiast. Heres a place to start looking for one...

 I am separately working on a set of foolproof instructions to create a standard device that is good enough to achieve this task at a reasonable price. Ill post a link as soon as its semi legible.

Price: $unknown

Spectruino is a semi commercial/open source product

A more expensive product, than the publiclab system above, but easier to get up and running (I assume).

Ocean Optics STS-NIR
Approx US$1500
Ocean Optics is a commercial company that produces a range of spectroscopes

They have a page about volcanic research
which is a good place to start looking around

Probable product to start considering might be this..
current Retail approx , but you will need software and some type of lens to connect to it..

Here is a place that sells them, and the rest of the Ocean Optics range.

ASDI  FieldSpec 4 Hi-Res: High Resolution Spectroradiometer

FieldSpec 4 Hi-Res: High Resolution Spectroradiometer
Seems to fit the requirement quite nicely, although it covers Visible and UV light as well as IR, so if its expensive, you may find you are paying for features and abilities you dont need.


Block Engineering M100
Block Engineering has been making IR spectroscopes since the 50s
They are a primary supplier of spectrometers to the US military (for better or worse).

These are military grade fully integrated devices, no doubt well made, reliable, and easy to use.

It appears they will run everything from the box, so nothing to plug in. There are of course attachments such as a telescopic lens. There is the smaller, M90 which is for connecting to other systems, and probably not relevant here unless you have found an old one on eBay or something and want to get it working..

I have yet to confirm if they are directly appropriate for this task, but with a decent Lens/Scope attachment, I cant see why not.

Here is the datasheet http://www.blockeng.com/products/m90100sheet.pdf

Avantes Mini
A Dutch company with 20 years experience.

This is the most cost effective unit, the mini, lthough our use may require a different (higher res) unit..

Updates to come.

You will probably need software to preform basic tasks with the data.
Here is some software that you may or may not wish to use with them

Ocean Optics Ocean View Software
RRP US$250 approx for single user license


Buck Engineering GRAMS Spectral ID
RRP US$995(?)

Here are Some links related to the Science/Theory

A Classroom type explanation of IR Spectrosopy basics and essentials, a great place to start.

A Discussion on identifying chemical types with IR spectrascopes.

A SIMPLE explanation of Fourier transformation

Link from commercial gas company Linde with multiple links regarding IR Spectrosopy.

Scientific overview of sensing light generally.

Are they up to the task?
To be honest, I am not an expert but it seems to be a perfectly straight forward use for this technology.

Here are some reasons that this use is well suited to these devices;

1) Our atmosphere is well suited to this testing

Nitrogen(N2) and Oxygen gas(O2) make up nearly 99% of our atmosphere, and they both happen to be transparent to IR light (which is unusual).
Also, the compounds we are expecting (water, CO2 etc) are already there in trace amounts. This means even small amounts of any other compound will show up easily.

2) We know what SHOULD be coming out of planes.
Basically water(H2O), Carbon Dioxide(CO2), a bit of unburned fuel and maybe some Carbon Monoxide with possibly certain trace amounts such as paint and oil (ie very low levels of any of the muck you would find on a hangar floor..

3) Infrared light is just low frequency light 
There is a lot of very high quality very low cost optical equipment around that we can use (ie cheap telescopes, binoculars and fire optic conduits).

4) We know exactly where and when we can take readings for the best effect.
Take a reading directly in front of the aircraft, then about 10 seconds later directly behind the aircraft (preferably without moving the lens) and compare the two.

5) We do not actually have to identify the compound.
Although the simple systems have thousands 
Infrared profiles for known compounds already. All we have to do is demonstrate that there is a compound present which cannot be accounted for, and then hand over the information to an atmospheric chemist who can use serious hardware and skills to determine what it is.

6) There is a very reliable and predictable light source coming from behind the trails (namely the sun). We do not have to vapourise or illuminate anything. Although not so good at night, the Sun is a decent predictable source, and the atmosphere is stable, compared with a volcano for example.

This site
suggests using "High-Res" readers when performing atmospheric research

Will it be sensitive enough to get a decent reading?
Infrared Spectrum of  star HD172555.

This technology has been used by Observatories to detect Sodium atoms in the atmosphere of a planet 500 light years away, so this is not really a problem.

Long story short.... Its light, if you can focus a lens like a camera or a telescope at it, and take a reading from that, you have it.

I DO NOT recommend you run out and buy one immediately, maybe think about it first, or see if you can borrow or rent one rather than spending lots of money. Unless money is no object for you, in which case go for it.
If you want to be helpful, but this all seems a bit too technical then maybe contact me and help with testing the el cheapo unit I am trying to make (Ill be using an old digital camera and a Rasberry Pi or Aduino)

When all is said and done, if you really want to do something (ANYTHING) about chemtrails this action (determining what is in them), where and when, is the first and most important step.

Very similar product at a volcano

Point the connected lens at the clouds (chemtrails) and see what the chemical makeup is.


You have nothing to lose.

If you find nothing, you can sleep soundly or worry about other things.

If you find something, it would be AWESOME!It would be a bigger discovery than Watergate.

The way it works, you would actually take a few readings, but essentially your would only need two; one just in front of the aircraft, and one in the trail, and subtract the first from the second.

You will have a full chemical profile of the contents of the trail, even if it is an unknown chemical it may be possible to infer its makeup from its IR profile.


Not only discusses the sordid subject of price (often avoided), but will also rent units with prices ranging from $150 to $500 per week.


That's all you need to know to confirm the contents of chemtrails.

There is no way to hide chemicals from the process,
These devices can detect calcium atoms in planets 500 light years away, they will have no problems with any chemical only a few miles up. (Its light so yes you can plug the fibre optic connector into a telescope if you want accuracy).

You Don't need me to do it, you can do it yourself


If you want to hear my concept for getting a bunch of people do it simultaneously, then please continue reading...

The Long Explanation
Get a bunch of people to do the same test on trails, using the same procedures, and similar tools, all over the globe simultaneously.

It could be done cheaply, possibly for free if you can borrow a unit with only a small amount of spare time.


My main motivation here is to create a method to prove the facts beyond reasonable doubt.

It should be repeatable, and verifiable.

To the extent that someone on either side of the debate may be convinced to change.

Summary : I want the truth.

The basic chemtrails idea
A loose working definition of chemtrails for the purposes of this article...

"Aircraft are spraying the atmosphere worldwide with some "chemical or range of chemicals" for some ulterior motive. 
This is revealed by the trails left by aircraft as they travel across the sky"

There are countless adjuncts to this basic idea. If you think I am missing a fundamental part, please specify in the comments.

Some people find the term "chemtrails" to be loaded, some find the meteorlogical term "contrails" to be biased, I will refer to them as "trails", so as not to offend the sensitive.

The Target
The white lines ("trails") across the sky left by aircraft are 
Scientists say "Contrails".
Conspiracy theorists say "Chemtrails".

[According to meteorologists] Contrails: Water condensation, sometimes frozen water vapour. (ie Clouds).

[According to chemtrail adherents] Chemtrails : some chemical compound other than water, although may also contain water.
Put there to achieve a purpose unrelated to air travel.

The aim is to identify the those compounds.

On many sites the concept of chemtrails is often merged with the concepts of geoengineering.

For the purposes of this project, we are not interested in the specific use of a compound.

We do not care "Why it is there?",

We just want to know "What is there?".

If we find something unexpected, we can worry about the "Why is it there?" later.

The Plan

To create a method to analyse, record and report coherently the chemical nature of the trails.

Get multiple people on either side of the debate to agree on a testing/reporting protocol in advance of the testing.

Get  multiple people to reliably replicate the procedure. Preferably in many different locations.
The more people the better, the more diverse (different couintries etc) the better.

It would be a requirement to meet the basic standards of observational evidence.
For example, record all observations, in a standard way ie date, time, gps loc, which way facing, angle, and possibly a photo.
The results are not likely to be published, but integrity is key.

In the case that some chemical that would not be expected as a result of regular aircraft operation was detected, and this was repeatable, the information would be offered (free and openly) to actual professional scientists to repeat themselves and perform serious analysis.

The procedure requires the use of a scientific instrument which is capable of analysing chemicals reliably at a medium range (say 2 to 50 kilometres away). 
Specifically it would be a requirement that it could discern between a cloud of water and a cloud of (for example) Aluminium Oxide at that range.

Infrared Spectroscope analyzing
Volcanic gas emissions
Infrared Spectroscope
An instrument that appears to do that is called an "Infrared Spectroscope".

I do not know how to use one, and expect I would be initially baffled by the output.

That should not be a significant hurdle as it may not even be a requirement to be able to use one, since a skilled operator could be a requirement to rent one, and is probably a preferable way to ensure meaningful results.

The key issue is getting the instruments (renting,borrowing or making) and getting someone who can use them with the time to indulge this project.
If they charge by the hour and thats the only way, then so be it, but it may be possible to engage them in the spirit of this project, and to help at a minimum of cost.

To our advantage, the experiment/observations can be conducted almost anywhere with a good view of the sky, so it may not even be necessary to move it anywhere. If it is setup outside for some use, we could come along at the end of the day, and get it to run for another hour or so. Minimal disruption.

Other types of instrument
I assume that radar would be able differentiate between clouds of aluminium oxide and water, but may not be able to identify the chemical if it is neither. There is no reason many different instruments may be used.

If anyone is familiar with any of these or similar instruments and has a suggestion, there may even be more appropriate instruments to use.. please leave a comment. Thanks


But Heck - why wait for me?. If you can get your hands on one, why not do it today? or any time. I would love to know what happens? What really surprises me is that nobody in the large and at least vocally active chemtrails community has never thought of or done something like this up till now.

The more people the better. People who can help making the project scientifically legible and presentable would be very useful, as well as people who can interpret the data (Atmospheric scientists).
I am also particularly interested in getting on board adherents to the conspiracy. It adds significant weight if people who distrust the trails are involved in the design of the testing, and the observations.

So Please : If you are a "Chemtrails person" I would really like you to be involved. Imagine what it would be like if we specifically found something,
Which should be exactly what you expect to happen.

If you know of any people who may suit this, please refer them to make a comment here, or contact me on Twitter @logicfrenzy

For easier linking use the short permalink:  cpubbq.com/chemtrails to this page:


PraiaFlamengo said...

Good challenge CPU. I've been independently working on aviaticus cloud forecasting for about 4 months now. It is becoming second nature the more I learn of weather patterns and air traffic patterns. Here is a blog post sample if you are interested: http://theorioninitiative2.blogspot.com/2015/04/it-is-time-for-professional.html

Unknown said...

The one thing here is that this is all correct when You're looking at normal aircraft who aren't spraying their chemicals. The scope of this observation is only limited to the the actual location and test trails in the sky they were looking at. If they were serious about debunking this, try having dozens of people around the country all analyzing what they see abd experience in the sky all at once and tell us what they see?
All this article did was tell people this of analyzing the data from various devices and methods. But is not deffinitivly proving that our gov and entities are not spraying shitnin our skies.

CPU Barbeque said...

PraiaFlamengo - Sounds interesting Ill take a look, sorry about the response delay.

Clintons -
Thanks for Reading and the comment - appreciate it.
The first things this can do is demonstrate what a white line coming from the rear of an aircraft contains, on the fly, and with a verifiable "chain of custody" of evidence.
I could go out and take 100 samples, each with painstaking diligence, but why would anyone believe me more than anyone else?
If someone does not trust anyone else, they could assemble such a system, right down to writing the software themselves, and assembling and testing the hardware themselves.
IMHO - anyone who is concerned about chemtrails would jump at this - a serious method to prove/disprove the concept.
I'm neutral on the subject, I have had about 5 people contact me, from about 1000 page views, mainly via twitter, explaining first that they dont know how it works, but that it wont work, including one guy who assured me that the chemicals "the Govt" uses have "Molecules smaller than atoms".
I have yet to have anyone contact me saying - "By Heck you are Right! we can prove it once and for all using this technology".
.... But I wait in hope.